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For awhile now Manwin has owned and operated several of the largest ILLEGAL tube sites in the world, displaying videos they don’t own or have the rights to on these websites.  Companies request the videos get removed, sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t and even if they do the videos go right back up there.  They then feed these videos through to the members area of Brazzers as well. Nice way to side skirt that law about theft, right?  They just blame it on their users.  Sure they benefit from it but hey, what’s a little law skirting between friends, right?

Manwin will give you some big bullshit song and dance how technically what they do isn’t against the law but all know the truth and hey, so do the guys from Mega Upload.  Just ask KimDotCom how that’s going for him.

 
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So back to Manwin, today they are claiming they have no relation with Filesonic or ANY file sharing site.  REALLY?  REALLY???  Apparently they don’t realize that just because they call it something else, it’s still an illegal file sharing website.  A tube site in fact that shares  stolen movie clips, which is what they are nailing those guys for.  So basically they got all mad because someone on GFY was like omg Manwin is in with Filesonic and they demanded the little guy on GFY who posted the story prove it or get banned.   The guy wasn’t smart enough to prove it through proving that their 8 or so illegal tube sites are in fact FILE SHARING WEBSITES, so he got banned.

Manwin Denies Relations with Filesonic or Any File Sharing Site

The company, which also owns Brazzers, has issued a rare public statement denying a claim made by a GFY poster, and is seeking ‘proof or ban’ over the poster’s claims

Adult industry powerhouse Manwin has reacted quickly to deny comments made in a thread posted to GFY.com Wednesday morning in which the original poster makes several claims, including this one: “Turns out that FileSonic is owned and operated by the same people who own Brazzers, how about that?” In reaction, Manwin has taken the rare step of issuing a public statement demanding that GFY administrators commence an immediate “proof or ban” action against the poster.

The Manwin statement—which is directed at GFY admins but which also promises a “swift response” in reaction to anyone who clains that Manwin has “relations” with Filesonic, a file sharing site that just disabled its file sharing function in the wake of the Megaupload closure by the Feds—is posted here in its entirety:

“In response to false allegations linking Manwin to FileSonic, made today on the industry message board GFY, Manwin issues the following statement:

“Manwin, which owns Brazzers, has no relations—business or otherwise—to FileSonic, nor to any other file sharing sites. Any statement otherwise is a fabrication, and will be met with a swift response.

“GFY rule #9 guards against false accusations:

“False accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

“In light of the above, Manwin requests GFY look into the thread started by “bbm” and request the user prove their claim, or face immediate banning—as per the message board’s policy.”

Manwin’s response has been posted to the GFY thread, and GFY’s Eric Matis has confirmed that the poster was banned for making accusations without providing proof.

The guy who was banned “BBM” was a member of GFY since 2005. Here is his post, which will no doubt be deleted and magically disappear soon enough.  I’ll bold the part that got him nailed.

In the last few days there was a lot of fuss about all these file sharing sites shutting down which got me interested so I did a little digging and found out a few surprising details. Turns out that FileSonic is owned and operated by the same people who own Brazzers, how about that? This information seems to be kept a secret pretty good, but here and there stuff leaks. I’ve talked to a friend of mine who had some copyright issues with FileSonic and he managed to get the records unsealed during some legal proceedings and he was pretty shocked to find out who the real owners were. I guess that is why they’ve split for cover and effectively shut the whole thing down, cos let’s face it, being in Canada and USA and all is not very good for you freedom options these days if you own a site like that. There are also a few more interesting facts. It seems like FileSonic were redirecting traffic, spreading it across a ton of domains to keep traffic rankings significantly lower than they really are, check out filesonic.fr, filesonic.jp and the rest! Combined traffic of FileSonic alone is probably bigger than that of Megaupload.

FileServe.com (owned by Choopa) shut down was motivated by exactly same reason in my opinion, being way too large and being in USA. Getting one of the biggest file sharing host is a pretty smart move for Choopa. All this makes me think that Megaupload was probably not the biggest or the baddest out there. These two combined probably were and are still pretty monstrous, not to mention the fact that each of them operated several quite large satellite services like WUpload for FileSonic and UploadStation and FileJungle for FileServe.

I also think that may be we are getting too worried and making a big mistake here getting all nasty towards older, managable hosts. If Brazzers owned one, it sure as hell was good for them and they do not delete their stuff from anywhere, even from other hosts. I also spoke with a few guys from several affiliate programs and they say they don’t bother too much about their content being hosted there cos it’s a free ad space. Lots of people come and buy memberships (provided of course the site is good enough to justify that).

Also I think that if a person doesn’t want to buy or can’t buy a membership they won’t do it no matter if the content is there or not. Those guys also told me that getting stuff removed is pretty simple as these hosts are easy to talk to most of the time. So instead of fighting them may be we should consider working with them on some sort of beneficial partnership? You guys willing to entertain ideas on that?

All these folks who got kicked out of all the major dead or dying hosts are going to look elsewhere and new players will start popping up which in fact is a lot worse than dealing with those familiar hosts we have online now. New guys will have to be aggressive to grow fast. So attention should be paid.

Anyway there is a lot of food for thought here. May be they are not as bad as we think? Look at Brazzers and a few other big sponsors they do not care much about their content being shared and I think they either know smth we don’t or have a vision.

What we should worry about are those damned tubes, like http://www.xvideos.com/

It’s Alexa is 50 and you can find anything there from every sponsor, free, and that seems really dangerous to me.

So what do you think about all of that?